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  Did Ray Franz Help You To Get Out of “The Truth”?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i sneakily read his books at work.

  it was written in such a way that no one could accuse him of being another bitter old apostate.. once it registered in my brain, especially after reading the second book, i knew i had to get out!.

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  Nathan Natas

  ...OK, truth be told, I have scanned some sections of the book, but Ray Franz is not my "spiritual father" -- that honor goes to my good friend and confidant Willis C. and to Barbra G. Harrison, in a sense.
  
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  Did Ray Franz Help You To Get Out of “The Truth”?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i sneakily read his books at work.

  it was written in such a way that no one could accuse him of being another bitter old apostate.. once it registered in my brain, especially after reading the second book, i knew i had to get out!.

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  Nathan Natas

  Ha ha Ha!

  Ray wrote CoC in 1983, at least five years AFTER I found out that a pedophile in the Middle Village Queens NY congregation was being PROTECTED by our lily-livered "elders."

  I don't owe Ray SQUAT. Furthermore, he maintained that he knew NOTHING about a pedophile problem in the WTB&TS. Was he ignorant, naive, or a liar? That's above my pay grade, as they say.

  To this day I have not read CoC cover-to-cover because i doubt it has anything in it that would influence my choices.
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  Leaders or liars

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was a thriving regular pioneer, doing all thr things wholeheartedly, had 16 bible studies, 7 attending meetings regularly, 11 magazine routes and 100's of rv's.

  you can imagine i was always runnin out of literature and always a good list of books to order every month.

  (not bragging,just stating facts.all this is wasted anyway).

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  Nathan Natas

  Don't worry, ZNMD, proceed at the speed that suits YOU.

  This is a no-pressure kind of place; almost everyone here is 'recovering' or is very close to someone who is.

  Also be comfortable knowing that this site doesn't try to cram you into a box and say, in effect, "Now that you've left the JWs, you MUST become a member of my cult!" so here you will find JWs who became Bible Students, JWs who became Catholics, JWs who became Muslim, Hindu, Wiccan,... you name it, we probably have one, even (whispering) Atheists!

  All are welcome and no collection is taken! Sound familiar?
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  Leaders or liars

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was a thriving regular pioneer, doing all thr things wholeheartedly, had 16 bible studies, 7 attending meetings regularly, 11 magazine routes and 100's of rv's.

  you can imagine i was always runnin out of literature and always a good list of books to order every month.

  (not bragging,just stating facts.all this is wasted anyway).

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  Nathan Natas

  First, ZNMD, as one who was a regular pioneer (in NYC), I have to sincerely commend you on your personal performance when you were pioneering.

  YES, looking back we know that we were duped and that the WTB&TS is a steaming pile of stinking horse crap, but in context, you took a job (so to speak) and YOU DID IT. If we were looking at a Bell Curve of pioneer performance for any category, YOU would be well over on the right side beyond the median, while _I_ would have been far to the left, anchoring the base of the curve.

  In Real Life I was more like you, job performance wise. I'm interested in hearing more of your story. Where did you pioneer? Are you an XJW now? How did you get out? What was your "exit experience" like? How are you doing now?

  I look forward to more posts from you, but not four at a time.
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  Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Bother You At All?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i faded from the religion and simply didn’t go back.

  once people understood that my family and i left, people in the congregation didn’t know what to do.

  should they call me, visit me, leave me alone?

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  Nathan Natas

  "Kids are different today"

  I hear ev'ry dubber say

  Dubbers need something today to calm 'em down

  And though 'e's not really ill

  There's a little scarlet pill

  'e goes running for the shelter of a dubber's little helper

  And it helps 'im on 'is way, gets 'im through 'is busy day...
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  Comedy

  by caves in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i like to watch stand up comedy and comedy clips.

  do you have favorite comedians or skits ect?

  https://youtu.be/5lgeiil1__s.

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  Nathan Natas

  I prefer to watch comedians from the luxurious comfort of my La-Z-Boy recliner*, but that is a personal choice, as the Scripture is silent on this matter.

  *Standing up for a full set just hits me in the knees and low back, as Art Ritus once observed.
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  Should I be with someone who's had lots of pervious partners?

  by Jxvi in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  thanks for reading (i'm sorry this is a little bit of a sensitive topic, though i'll try to be gentle.).

  a little back story.

  i have been working so hard to build my faith this year, and i am finally at the point where i am beginning to trust god and i want to build an unbreakable relationship with him.

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  Nathan Natas

  Sex is just sex, and "social diseases" are just part of the party decorations. Besides, no one lives forever!

  Is your pervious friend honest? Would that friend tell you if she had transmittable STDs?

  Maybe in the heat of lust that doesn't matter to you now, but in two months when fire comes out when you piss, you might find you have a different view.

  On the other hand, maybe you like a nice BBQ'd groin roast?

  Who am I to judge? No one; so I won't. "Do as thou wilt is the whole of the law."

  Just be sure to ask only your free-lovin' friends to help with the bandages. I'll be washing my feet that day.
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  Should I be with someone who's had lots of pervious partners?

  by Jxvi in

  1. social
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  thanks for reading (i'm sorry this is a little bit of a sensitive topic, though i'll try to be gentle.).

  a little back story.

  i have been working so hard to build my faith this year, and i am finally at the point where i am beginning to trust god and i want to build an unbreakable relationship with him.

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  My suggestion would be to diligently avoid pervious partners!
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  Did you know Banks create money out of thin air?

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  banks create money “out of thin air.”empirical studies have been undertaken to prove this thesis and this is the conclusion:.

  in the 5,000 year history of banking, banks have been thought of as “deposit taking institutions which lend money”.. 1. what is the legal reality?

  banks don’t take deposits and don’t lend money.the public is under this false impression on purpose because the language of banks is not legal language.. so--what is a “deposit”?a deposit is not actually a deposit.

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  Nathan Natas

  LoveUniIHateExams, I'm going to take a wild guess here... you are not an economics major, are you?
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  'Tactical Contact' - UK Police

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. current

  take a look at this, fellow forum members .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5d7eoodv3e .

  f**king brilliant xd.

  thoughts?.

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  Nathan Natas

  Excellent! EX-cellent!!

  Here in the USA some departments get training in the "P.I.T. manuever" (Pursuit Intervention Technique) which is a way that the police car can hit the rear of the criminal's car to send it spinning out-of-control.

  Sadly because the criminalss are inside their car, there are seldom serious injuries to the criminals.

  Let's see,shall we?

  https://youtu.be/OjvBYk8_8HIPursuit Intervention Technique